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Subject: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: Z.Z. posted Tue, Oct 6 2009, 11:23am 
I am positive that my latest blog will offend most people.
If it has offended you, put your words of offense here.
I will read or ignore them as I deem appropriate.
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: MikeK posted Tue, Oct 6 2009, 11:36am 
No offense taken here, i have been saying that for years just i was never able to put it quite that nicely. Thanks for putting it in writing. The truth hurts and people need to just realize that and straighten up. Wishfull thinking sadly.
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: Ego posted Tue, Oct 6 2009, 1:23pm 
Hiya ZZ, been a long time, there's nothing offensive about your blog although it does contain some horrible reminders of what our race is capable of. Hardly a competition but I do see the extent of that depravity every day or at least deal with the perpetrators of such acts. We dont learn from such things only react with ineffective strategies & laws. Doubt if that will ever change.
Needless to say though hon, I dont quite follow or agree with the BF connection, once BF becomes the ideal then that itself will take on religeous tones & you have clearly illustrated that religeon hardly keeps our hands clean.
I'm firmly of the opinion though that this would be a better place if more folk thought like you though regardless of your BF related craZZiness !
Ego
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: Z.Z. posted Wed, Oct 7 2009, 10:31am 
Thanks guys, I have contractors all over my house right now, but I will post a more in depth response in a day or two :)
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: luna1580 posted Thu, Oct 8 2009, 12:18am 
i have a totally different theory: we don't need BF mythology as an idyllic reminder of the "noble savage" we humans "could be", we need it as an "other" and a "monster" that helps us define our humanity by outlining both the "dangers that dwell in the world beyond" our cultural/tribal group and to demonstrate how we (as a group) are superior to the "wild and unknown" "other". in both ways it helps strengthen in-group bonds and loyalty -even if it doesn't corporeally exist.

this is a repost (of mine) from here (with a minor addition):

Cryptozoology.com july 3.09

i totally agree that the ubiquity of BF (including all legendary hominids) is fascinating.

to me, this raises the possibility that BF legends are tied to our deep psychological need to have an "other" who is almost human in our culture and folklore in order to help societies and individuals define what "truly/fully human" is. it can also be helpful to have "monsters" abounding in the wilds outside the village physically (and/or outside the tribe socially) for use in cautionary tales and morality parables told to children, particularly in pre-literate societies. perhaps some of this is even conceivably a cultural memory from coexistence with species like Homo neanderthalensis, Homo erectus, or Homo floresiensis (BIG "conceivably" here)....

so i believe that some of the many BF tales may have been sparked by some real animals, sometime in human cultural memory, but i also believe that "almost humans" may lurk deep in our social histories and yet have not been a part of this physical world for a very long time -if ever. hence the vast worldwide mythology of "near human" sprites and ogres and jinn and "big and little people" and sea-folk and shōjō, and yetis, and trolls, and shape-shifters and all the rest....

it still seems to me that the "legendary non-human hominid" occupies a place in our mental landscape that is distinct from other cryptids, and those very devoted to frequenting this place don't visit the general CZ realm that often.
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: /PJ posted Thu, Oct 8 2009, 1:00pm 
Here's a noodle for you then:

What do we do with the reports where they are violent? Like the ones where they broke the necks of chickens and ducks (for food??) killed dogs and other farm animals and of course the famous Ape Canyon and Albert Ostman claims he was kidnapped to be a mate. Don't forget all the reports of them eating deer liver. They have to kill one to do this. That = violence to me. I don't think deer just give livers away LOL. Also, where I grew up, the stories are about twins, a bad one and a good one.

Seems they are more like us than some people want to think. Are there any animals that are totally docile and don't exhibit some sort of violence to another species?
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: kearnivorous posted Fri, Oct 9 2009, 7:30am 
I'm guessing snails don't, although maybe they make some people throw up, and that is a violent reaction.
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: luna1580 posted Fri, Oct 9 2009, 10:47pm 
cone snails are venomous harpooners of their prey....

YouTube - Poison in a Cone


and i'm assuming you (or pjeeg) meant "violent" to other animal species.....

garden slugs seem pretty benign if you aren't a tasty tasty plant though.....
Subject: Re: Ok, you can start beating me with wet noodles now ;)
From: kearnivorous posted Sat, Oct 10 2009, 6:45am 
I do find those cone shells gorgeous, but I'd rather not pick one up unless I was very sure it was dead. We got told there were a pretty common source of injury for diver who pick them up and put them in their pockets. Shell gets narky, diver goes owwy.

And yes, I was referring to the garden variety of snails, the only damage they have ever cause me is when I slipped on one and sprained my ankle, although he got the worse deal out of the two of us.


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