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Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Stoneage posted Sun, Jul 1 2007, 3:50am 
The whole point of a fixed observation post is to allow the creatures to get used to it and then hopefully they will approach where they can be observed. It wouldn't matter if the post is set up in relatively shallow water (< 300 feet). Most, if not all cryptids, are observed on the surface, or close to it. So letting the animals come to the Island would be less invasive and less costly.

As for the Lusca, I just used that term as a generic for giant octopi, one of the creatures that I think will make the list of 'real' animals some day. The sea hides many mysteries. The St. Augustine is a good example. Whether it's was the remains of a giant octopus or just a blob of protein, it was something. Besides there's little 'real' evidence for any cryptid, that's why they're still cryptids.

Stoneage
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Stu posted Sun, Jul 1 2007, 5:53am 
"Besides there's little 'real' evidence for any cryptid, that's why they're still cryptids."

Well if there's a truer statement than that, my names not Harry Trueman & I'm not the true mayor of Truesville.

I know what you meant by the Lusca, & that you were talking about the giant octopus (a species I, too, believe will introduce itself comparatively soon, either via accident, washed-up corpse or close-up observation). But I'm not sure we'll see it in such shallow water, that was my point. I still think the island is a great idea, but I think it would have to go deeper & in a much more remote area (forgive me, I can't think of that somewhere just that - but I will!).

ROVs going way, way down would be amazing to watch. I'd personally, financially subscribe, & help get funds for (I've a bit of experience in that area), such a project. But again, the cryptid element of large unknown aquatic animals means that where we'd be looking, & what for, would be down to, at best, half-educated guesswork.

Maybe I'll email Equipe Cousteau & ask them what happened to the idea.

Great blog, one of the best I've read in a while on here.

Stu
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Dinokaiser posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 2:16am 
"Well if there's a truer statement than that, my names not Harry Trueman & I'm not the true mayor of Truesville."

There is ONE cryptid that is alive, is proven real but scientists don't dare examine it, which is why it's still a "cryptid"; the Salaawa, an evil beastie in Egypt which has attacked over hundreds of people (kinda reminds me of the beast of Gevaudan...except in packs and less deaths), I may try and find it when I go to Egypt on thursday...although I think i'll just enjoy my vacation cus i've been trying to look for one for 2 years now (I always miss it!).
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Stu posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 3:02am 
Go & look at this.

It was discussed here last year. That's a photo of one which was killed. Wild dog most likely, with an embedded collar injury. Absolutely nothing like the Beast of Gevaudan, in that there was a pack, it was smaller & we have a photo.

Enjoy your holiday. Maybe you'll see a Beenu bird instead.

Stu
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Dinokaiser posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 3:45am 
I would hardly call that a discussion and I doubt that photo is actually of a Salaawa (I never reffered to Animal X) because after the massive Salaawa attack (over a hundred wounded/attacked, but i'm not sure if anyone died) the president decided each night a troop be sent around/in Egypt (or Alexandria, can't really remember) to shoot every stray dog on sight and Salaawa (especially in armant) on sight (because of the Salaawa attack), which is why it's deffinately canine or canine-like (like a hyena).

There are many Egyptians (mainly my relatives) who gave me these descriptions; it is like a hybrid between a dog and a kangaroo because it can jump high on 2 legs, or vaguely, it looks like a dog. Although I think it may be something similar to a hyena (don't ask me why) or a dog but the jumping abilty confuses me, it leaps up to the face with its hind legs kicking you down and bites your face, which is why most injuries were found on the upper bodies of victims.

I have gotten this info from newspapers (however I don't know if there are any new attacks because I only hear from them in Egypt) and witnesses in Egypt and are almost never reported in other countries (might ruin the tourism).

...I think next time I should just start a new thread cus this has nothing to do with "Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents"......this is the 2nd discussion i've had with you today! (although it's probably my fault)...yeah uhhh, after this if anyone wants to discuss i'll just sart a new thread (I feel so stupid for that!).

"Enjoy your holiday. Maybe you'll see a Beenu bird instead."

Thanks!...what's a Beenu Bird? (well I can't possibly know everything about Egypt!)
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Stu posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 4:11am 
Nice pic. And I think you'll find that the Salaawa attacks ceased after '96 & the shootings of the animals in question. Why is that photo not of a sawaala? It's what was shot & comes from the Egyptian media. Could have been hyenas, though.

Good luck. Beenu bird? Folklore - like a phoenix. Look it up yourself!

Stu
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Dinokaiser posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 4:24am 
"And I think you'll find that the Salaawa attacks ceased after '96 & the shootings of the animals in question."

Sadly no because there was a huge attack in alexandria 2004(5?) and there are still attacks but like I said are rarely reported.

"Why is that photo not of a sawaala? It's what was shot & comes from the Egyptian media."

It's probably a pic of one of the stray dogs who were shot, the term Salaawa is applied to many canine like creatures that attack in Egypt so there is a lot of confusion, but the real "mystery" creatures are the ones that can jump like a kangaroo, are hyenas actually good jumpers?

"Good luck. Beenu bird? Folklore - like a phoenix. Look it up yourself! "

Thanks again. But when I did look it up, these links to gems and jewels etc turned up!

...should I just make a new thread?
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Stu posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 4:32am 
Sure, if you have new info on the Salaawa, you should do.
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Thomas Quatl posted Tue, Nov 13 2007, 4:47pm 
Hey

Dinokaiser. I think that you right. Salaawa this is not normal wild dog. Perhaps some strange relative to african wild dog. Have you ever new information about this animal from Egypt?
I would be very grateful if you could write to my e-mail or this forum.

Thomascanid*yahoo.com (* - @)
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Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Dinokaiser posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 3:57am 
"The whole point of a fixed observation post is to allow the creatures to get used to it and then hopefully they will approach where they can be observed. It wouldn't matter if the post is set up in relatively shallow water (< 300 feet). Most, if not all cryptids, are observed on the surface, or close to it. So letting the animals come to the Island would be less invasive and less costly. "

Very clever (finally getting back to the subject after the Salaawa post) although it's not easy for the animal to get used to if it doesn't see that post daily or weekly, but if it's loch ness I suppose it might work (although i'm rather skeptical).

"Whether it's was the remains of a giant octopus or just a blob of protein"

Blob of protein? Is that even possible? are you also talking about the photo with a man and where there was a rope around the blob/octopus?
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Stu posted Mon, Jul 2 2007, 7:46pm 
That's the one.
Subject: Re: Silently Seeking Submarine Serpents
From: Ghost of TC posted Sun, Jul 8 2007, 3:00am 
imagine waht that fella is smelling by standing right there


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