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Subject: Re: Evolution
From: FLUFFY posted Tue, Jul 31 2007, 6:21pm 
Ok evolution: this is what i understood from it. correct me if im wrong.

Big bang... (not relavent to the process but where did everything come from yadda yadda yadda)

comets brought most of the liquid water (ice)

the process of evaporation and condensation (ive read about an experiment where water had been evaporated "zapped" by electricity and condensed then evaporated again, after some time, months if i recall on the bottom of the "condenser tube" an orange slime appeared which actually was amino acids (building blocks of DNA and RNA)

yadda yadda yadda simple bacteria

yadda yadda yadda predatory bacteria evolved to feed on the others

the race between predator and prey got bacteria to change to become faster smarter bigger more versatile

green alga->moss yadda yadda yadda

very soon jelly fish and simple brainless organisms appeared yadda yadda yadda

mollusks->crustations->fish->reptiles->birds
Insects evolved from crustations only they "came out" alot sooner then fish/reptiles.

But the thing that amazes me most is that WE human beings consider our selfs to be the top of the pyramid, the cream of the crop, the perfection of evolution.
Thats bull (pardon my french) we have no natural defenses we arnt fast nor strong nor agile, our sense of smell is poor at best out eye sight is good but not the best so how did WE manage to survive up to this day? this question has bugged me for years.
No other animal cares for their young for such a long period, no other animals birth process is as painful as a humans.
So how the hell did we manage to assume such a place in the natural order of things?


Im trying to find the answers in alternative literature/studies like the Devolution theory which claims that WE are all DEVOLVING.

If u got anything else to add please do :)

Pardon my grammar English as a 4th language is kinda taking its toll on my mental health.
Subject: Re: Evolution
From: Z.Z. posted Tue, Jul 31 2007, 10:48pm 
"Insects evolved from crustations"

So THATS why crustaceans look like bugs to me!

LOL!
Subject: Re: Evolution
From: wisker posted Wed, Aug 1 2007, 5:15am 
well fluffy im going to try to answer your question.
short and simple

its our intellegence that keeps us at the top of the pyramid. our ability to make and use tools efficiently helps as well. like apes can use tools to do certain tasks.our social capibilities help us to build cities and use money to support or economic system. ants bees and termites also use social groups to remain alive, but unlike us they cant live with out their social group.

we have not always been at the top though. simple organisms such as bacteria have plauged us for years with disease.most of which we have over come using our inteligence through antibiotics and general medication. i feel that we will eventually over come all forms of bacterial infection one day.

our ability to make tools has helped us hunt and preform agriculture. like some ants farm fungus to survive.(i think they are leaf cutter ants)some termites as well from what i have read.we were able to construct traps to catch prey either ambush or mechanical traps. spiders also use traps called webs as im certain you already know.

most of the technology that we have, can be looked at as being copied from nature. we just have the inteligence to copy it in a diferent way through problem solving. even electronics in some ways mimic our central nervous system. i have even heard it said that when henry ford was developing cars he used the human body as an outline for the vehicles. now i dont know the truth to that but thats what ive heard.

so no we are not the top of the pyramid we still have not even conquered the most simple of life bacteria.but we are a notible inhabitant of our planet and we most likly will reach the top of the pyrimid if we dont destroy our selves first

one reason we cant defeat bacteria is they are so much smaller that they evolve more quickly, and adapt to our medications and antibiotics. so we have to find new ways to fight them. it may be a loosing battle on our part.
Subject: Re: Evolution
From: uselessinfo posted Wed, Sep 5 2007, 10:58am 
The bacteria should be fought by the realization that we shouldnt manufacture & mase produce things that sustain there lives.
as simple as old bread makes mold, which in turn causes a infection that needs to be treated by piniccilan[the same mold]. treat a snake bite with snake venom. the snake is the source not the venom
Subject: Re: Evolution
From: spitfirebird posted Sun, Aug 12 2007, 5:36pm 
Actually, humans are not 'at the top of a pyramid', there is no pyramid, not even a vertical line, evolution is not always going up, there is nothing at the top, it all branches outwards, and every living species is touching the edge of ever expanding circle. To Tartarus with humans, the Amoebas are at the top!


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