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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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Stu
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 7:32am
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That's rubbish....
The name originated in George Lucas' film THX 1138. In a line ad-libbed by an actor, a character says, "I think I just ran over a wookiee on the expressway."
It only took a glance in IMDB/Wikipedia/any Lucas site. Don't talk to me ever again about not doing homework!
If you can't get that right, what else have you erroneously stated? Really, no wonder BF believers all get lumped under the same 'nutty' banner.
Stu (the truth is out there - unless you make it up) |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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Stu
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 8:07am
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And spell Wookiee right, would you? |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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scmarlowe
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 3:05pm
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Stu, just because I won't do your homework for you is no reason to go off the deep end.
The material was researched and IS'NT rubbish. You're just full of the stuff that makes grass grow green and looking for an argument. Take a college class in cultural anthropology focusing on North American Indian Culture as I have (among many others) and stop "poo-pooing" the work of others because it doesn't fit your mental picture of the Bigfoot world.
I've had this discussion with the professors who teach the course and verified what I've stated to you as well as talked with several Seminole/Cherokee Native Americans in addition to researching the work at the Ah-Tah-Thi-Ki Museum. Try doing the same. |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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Stu
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 3:29pm
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Scott, a few pointers, my esteemed friend.
Where do I poo-poo the work of anyone in the BF world? Please tell me. I merely stated that some have a view of BF believers as 'misguided', if not just barking. 'Nutty' was the word I used. I don't think that. So you're wrong.
Where do you get Wookiee from Shaawanoki? I've already told you where Lucas got Wookiee from. You're wrong.
I'd love to do the same as you re. Ah-Ta-Thi-Ki, discussing it with professors, enrolling in cult/anth class in NA Indian Culture. But none of this is really possible in inner city Manchester. I do have a degree in History & English, as well as having written for a lot of publications worldwide, so I guess I must have done a little research/reading in my time. And I'm a bit of a movie buff. Why do you think I pulled you on this? Because I dislike the cut of your gib?
You're wrong about the origin of the term Wookiee, which was your original point. Just admit it & I'll swim up to the shallow end.
Stu (helping the grass stay green, it seems) |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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Stu
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 3:43pm
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And don't think the Louisiana Wookie got coined from Star Wars either. It didn't. |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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scmarlowe
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 8:33pm
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I don't. I said that Wookie and Shaawanooki were linguistically and culturally related. Not that one derived from the other.
"Wookie" is a term common to the Honey Island area of Louisianna.
"Shaawanooki" is a Seminole term from Florida.
The indian tribes of both areas have shared cultural heritage and some linguistic designations that apparently have similar origins (etmology) -- thus the meaning and sound of some words are identical or parallel (according to professor Roland Fische).
You mention that an actor "ad libed" the line. OK. But where did he get the term to use in the ad lib? Are you sure that it's just a coincidence that his ad lib and the Indian terms are identical?
If you and do a web search to check out film lore, you can certainly find references to the use of the term and its origins. I just did a simple search using "Wookie and Bigfoot" and got dozens of references (interesting as this is the first time I've done such a search). Of course, you have to do the leg work to check out the validity of these as there is much information on the Internet that is inaccurate. |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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scmarlowe
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 8:36pm
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And, I might add, trying to bait me to get additional information out of a defense response is a pathetic way to acquire more material.
It's just another example of why many of the professionals choose to just ignore the posts on this site -- which I am now considering. |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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scmarlowe
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 8:45pm
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Re-read what was said in the post.
I noted the similarity in the terms. I did not state that Lucas "stole" it for use in his film. |
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| Subject: | | Re: Extraterrestrial Bigfoot - the Chewbacca Defense Goes Both Ways |
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Stu
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Tue, Feb 6 2007, 10:53pm
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"Incidently, regarding the George Lucas connection with "Chewy", it's interesting that the term "Wookie" chosen by Lucas is a North American Indian term for a "Bigfoot"."
No Scott, it's not. He chose 'Wookiee', & the ad-lib from the actor was made up & is documented as so. You didn't note similarity - you said his very word was the SAME as the BF nomenclature.
'Professionals'....please don't use that badge of professionalism around me. I recognise & respect that you work in the field, & believe it or not, I believe the good things folks have to say on you. But you are not Batfink & your 'professional' wings are not a 'shield of steel'. Citing as 'credible' 2 3rd or 4th hand accounts of tales of Bigfoot attacks on humans doesn't seem that professional, although I accept you view them as less than concrete evidence.
As for baiting you to extract further info....nope, don't quite get that & refute it anyhow. I know very little about you &, in fact, am now a little sorry I seemed so abrasive in the above posts. But I sense, in some of your posts, a distinct 'professional aloofness' (& not just in you, in others) that gets my goat a bit, & I will aye respond to what I see as precocity masquerading as professionalism. I just detected a bit of that in you, is all. Did I metaphorically mention you were full of you-know-what? I did not. I think I hit a nerve.
But I'm through, I'm calling an end, a truce, & bringing to bear the most important thing - the need for cold, hard evidence. Good luck on that score.
Stu ('Glenfarclas - medicinal fun') |
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