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Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: busterggi posted Thu, Jul 6 2006, 5:49am 
There's a good amount of material in Sanderson's 'Abominable Snowmen - Legend Come to Life'. Even though it's 40 years old its still pretty good as a resource.

Considering the Flores 'hobbits' I think nittaewos were (are?) very likely real animals (hominids?).
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: 4040 posted Thu, Jul 6 2006, 5:52am 
Tales of little hairy men are very ancient and from many places, including Greenland. One cropped up in Brazilian UFO lore some years back.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Cherokee posted Thu, Jul 6 2006, 10:09am 
I was going to ask the same tsunami question as Cisco. And it seems as if the creatures were highly intelligent, except for using their nails to disembowel instead of a weapon or tool.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Thu, Jul 6 2006, 11:08am 
Its this recurring account of little hairy men throughout the world that is intriguing - culd there have been a global population that has gradually receded as humans spread out and basically out-competed and destroyed their habitat?

I didn't realize there were similar stories in Greenland, 4040. Thats interesting - I had previously been thinking along the lines of an animal more suited to tropical/sub-tropical zones.

Of course we come back to the lack of at least fossil evidence - which is why its difficult to add any weight to the theory at the moment. Then again, extreme tropical conditions are said to make fossil formation rather difficult and rare - but thats not my area, so could be wrong...
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: 4040 posted Fri, Jul 7 2006, 1:52am 
I always wondered how little hairy pygmies got to Greenland, which is like an isalnd.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Sat, Jul 8 2006, 1:02am 
And it'd be very cold too - gotta have a lot of hair to survive those temperatures..
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: 4040 posted Sun, Jul 9 2006, 12:47am 
The arctic hairy pygmies are sure to have white hair to blend in with the snow. That is probably the reason few people see them.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: dorje posted Sun, Jul 9 2006, 11:20pm 
The other question to ask is who tells the stories? The eskimo or the Danes? Let us not forget that neither population has been in Greenland for long. The Eskimo were ariving there about the same time as the first scandinavian settlers arived from Iceland (the icelanders died off) while the danes arived much later. Either of these groups could have kept telling stories of little hairy men that they brought from somewhere else, just as icelanders brought their tales of elves with them from Norway.

Dorje
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: 4040 posted Mon, Jul 10 2006, 10:21am 
Sure dorje, myth is very portable. I just know that in Iceland they have what amounts to an elf inspector, and when they build something new he has to okay that it don't disturb an elves place. Actually they call them something else, but he has made roads go around places, etc.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Kimberly posted Mon, Jul 17 2006, 11:40pm 
Dont forget Mexico. Near to some ruins in Mexico there are realy realy little ruins, that only a small child could crawl in.
A night watchman (to keep the tomb raiders and vandles at bay) was pelted by tiny rocks that were shot at him with enough force to hurt!
The people who still live in the area talk of the "little people" who still live in the jungle...

Makes you wonder...

Kim
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Thu, Jul 6 2006, 11:00am 
Great! Thanks for the reference Busterggi - will try and get hold of that over the weekend.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Thu, Jul 6 2006, 12:07pm 
Good point about the tsunami.

From little I know, the area in question is rather hilly terrain, so may have escaped from the worst of the tsunami's effects.

But will follow up and find out more.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Crowfriend posted Fri, Jul 7 2006, 8:06am 
Them small hairy pygmies are pretty darn interesting, but what about them tall pygmies? Don't forget them tall ones, okay? Some of them are pretty hairy too!
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Sat, Jul 8 2006, 11:44pm 
True crowfriend true - but there'll always be plenty of people interested in the tall ones! Seems to me that the small ones could still stay easily hidden for years to come - especially in thick rainforest around Asia.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: 4040 posted Sat, Jul 15 2006, 10:06am 
I used to know a girl who was pretty close to the small ones you are talking about, and I have seen pictures of BIG hairy pygments maybe 7 ft tall. (or three metrics as we say in Elbonia)
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Sat, Jul 8 2006, 2:53am 
I had another theory about the Nittaewo - based on my experiences with Sloth Bears while filming over in Sri Lanka.

Sloth Bears like to stand upright, and when doing so, they are around 4 to 5ft tall. They also have 4 inch curved claws that are non-retractable. (One individual stood up on its hindlegs and spat into our jeep, which was actually quite an experience)

Mind you I have kind of let go of that theory after speaking with the Veddhas, especially after the chief said, "Do you think that the Veddha who have lived in these forests for thousands of years, cannot tell the difference between a bear standing up and a Nittaewo??? Veddha meet bears in the forest every day!"

At which point I said something like, "Yes chief. You're right chief. Sorry chief. And by the way thats a fine axe you're holding." (I think the translator caught the jist of it).
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Sat, Jul 8 2006, 2:57am 
Still - I thought I had a point:
(Not anymore, no sir)
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: 4040 posted Sat, Jul 8 2006, 3:20am 
"Chief carries an Axe. I like Chief."

Cheif carries an Axe and has no visible scars. I love Chief like brother.
Subject: Re: small hairy pygmies
From: Charith posted Mon, Jul 10 2006, 9:01pm 
LOL - you should see his brother... well you will if you watch the documentary at the end of this year!


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