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Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Stu posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 12:03pm  So you genuinely believe Hasan was a pre-prepared fully-fledged member of an extremist Muslim-faith terrorist organisation? Yes or no will do, thanks. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: KodiakKeith posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 12:25pm  I don't see any evidence that he was a member of an organization... yet. But he was certainly a Muslim extremist who carried out a terrorist attack. That's indisputable. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Stu posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 1:46pm  How's it indisputable? So far, what we have is a lot of hearsay, malicious rumblings, uncorroborated claims, & a guy who was quite obviously f**ed up & happened to be a Muslim, about to be deployed to fight Muslim extremists. Since much of the corroborative evidence this far points to his increasing desperation to get out of the army after having to take on board a series of emotional landmines, I'd say he flipped. PJ's theory of 'cop suicide' might not be so far off the mark either, but whatever, there's nothing confirmed yet to show his act was a political one. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: KodiakKeith posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 1:55pm  How's it indisputable? "Allahu Akbar" bang, bang, bang... Indisputable. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Stu posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 2:04pm  And it's been proven he shouted this? No it hasn't. Wait for the investigation to show their results, one of which might well be that he shouted this, before wearing your Islamophobic little heart on your sleeve. And learn to spell. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: KodiakKeith posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 4:05pm  Uh yeah, perhaps he was screaming "Who keyed my car?" and his motives were completely misunderstood. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Jesse R posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 5:21pm  Even if he did shout this, it doesn't mean it was a terrorist attack by a muslim fanatic. Maybe to call out God Is Great is just what you say when you think you might die. Something like making the sign of the cross. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: ElmerFudd posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 9:31pm  Around 1:30 p.m. Thursday, witnesses say a man later identified as Hasan jumped up on a desk and shouted the words "Allahu Akbar!" — Arabic for "God is great!" He was armed with at least one semiautomatic pistol capable of firing up to 20 rounds without reloading. He shot about 100 rounds before civilian police officer Kim Munley wounded him with four rounds. Though his motive remains unclear, speculation has swirled that he was dreading his own imminent deployment to the battlefields in Afghanistan, where he was to continue his work counseling fellow soldiers suffering from post-traumatic stress and other mental turmoil. W I T N E S S E S ........Stu (Waiting now for Stu to claim it is a combined pentagon and right wing conspiracy to whip up Muslim bigotry...) Relatives and associates say Hasan was critical of both the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and did everything he could to avoid being on the frontlines. A radical muslim murderer and a coward.....well they go together... Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Stu posted Sun, Nov 8 2009, 7:18am  Don't be so stupid. The only person thus far claiming he shouted this is Cones. It's uncorroborated. And if or when it is, it's no sign of an Islamic terrorist, just the happy little nudge you haters need to blame it all on the Big Bad Muslims. You, Meg, KK et al have done nothing but seethe & foam at the mouth about 'radical Islam extremists' since this awful act occurred, with hardly even a word about its consequences. I've hardly watched any analysis of the 'why' as yet. The 'what' has been far too grave to allow for much else - except in the heads of the haters, of course. Shame on the lot of you. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: ElmerFudd posted Mon, Nov 9 2009, 6:02pm  I guess you won't be happy until there is some recording huh? Witnesses count and they are saying the same thing..... BTW check out my latest post if you want to see a "hater".... Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Stu posted Mon, Nov 9 2009, 6:03pm  Get a grip. Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: ElmerFudd posted Mon, Nov 9 2009, 10:50pm  Start logical debating and quit playing the Holier-than-thou Troll.... Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Stu posted Tue, Nov 10 2009, 2:31am  If you really think I'm a troll, you'd never debate with me, so get a grip. 'Holier-than-thou' is your excoriating comeback response to points you might not want to hear while some of us are not so keen as you to jump on the 'THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING! THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING!' bandwagon? That's it? All you ever do is run down your country, your govt. & the majority who voted them in. It's not even comment or positive criticism, it's just pure & simple blatherskitery. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, but you won't be, folk like you never are, until you erally really need the very thing you so blithely whine against. And such an apt choice of phrase too, considering my spiritual position...... Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: ElmerFudd posted Sat, Nov 7 2009, 9:26pm  ROFL.......arguing with Stu in these matters is a waste of time....he just wants to see how long you will keep it up... He can calmly claim 2 + 2 = 5 for days until you just give up..... Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: MY2KPNY posted Mon, Nov 9 2009, 12:28pm  ummmm...pot....? This is the kettle... Subject: Re: Another indication that Hasan wasn't thinking rationally From: Stu posted Mon, Nov 9 2009, 2:07pm  ROFLMAO etc..... Stu's not "arguing". Stu is pointing out facts & fallacies yet to be corroborated. Sorry to rain on your Islamobonfire, Fud.

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