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Subject: Re: Map of N. America predates Christopher From: nimravus posted Sun, Jan 15 2006, 7:10pm  I had a book once, unfortunately not in my possession anymore, which made a plea that Columbus knew very well there was land in the west. Either he thought it was Cathay (China) or another place, I can't recall. Besides the already mentioned argument that people already knew the earth is round for a long time, the book stated that Columbus could have heard the stories of Vikings sailing for the Americas and having a colony on Greenland. Also it mentioned that English fisherman set to the north-west to catch cod, on which is probably the Great Banks. They could have spotted land if they sailed a bit further. Finally there was an intriguing story, that spanish sailors found, years before Columbus set sail to the west, a canoo with some people aboard. Based on their description they could have been native americans from the West Indies. Subject: Re: Map of N. America predates Christopher From: Lupan posted Mon, Jan 16 2006, 4:37am  i heard he was trying to find 7 ancient golden jewish cities, near "antilia". or he was in possession of a templar map, (which was a copy of a mapamundo) and he was trying to establisha new jerusalem (which is supposedly what the st. clair king tried to do for the templars. however later they apparently tried ot make montreal the new jerusalem... im not sure if its accurate or anything but its a good bit of conspiracy read Subject: Re: Map of N. America predates Christopher From: Megaraptor posted Mon, Jan 16 2006, 9:05am  "that spanish sailors found, years before Columbus set sail to the west, a canoo with some people aboard. Based on their description they could have been native americans from the West Indies." Doesn't that go the wrong way? I mean, I thought all the ocean currents near Spain flowed westwards. Subject: Re: Map of N. America predates Christopher From: jellyroll posted Mon, Jan 16 2006, 10:03am  Well, there is the Gulf stream that runs from the Gulf to Europe. Don't remember what the winds do. Hmmm... GOOGLE TIME!! Subject: Re: Map of N. America predates Christopher From: jellyroll posted Mon, Jan 16 2006, 5:41pm  currents 1 current 2 Subject: Re: Map of N. America predates Christopher From: Megaraptor posted Tue, Jan 17 2006, 12:52am  I see the gulf stream runs closer to Spain than I thought. And Hyerdahl crossed the atlantic in a reed boat, so who knows?

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