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Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: Megaraptor posted Fri, Aug 1 2003, 8:26pm  There have been a lot of tall tales about giant bullfrogs that can pull plows from the ozarks. Nothing to 'em, of course. A guy investigated one and said it was "twenty pounds of bull and one pound of frog." The "giant frog" from loch ness was reported by a diver from Foyers power station. He could have meant "a giant tadpole", which could have been a sturgeon or some other fish (the mix-up between adult frogs and tadpoles has occured before, as noted in In the Wake of the Sea Serpents). Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: Orca no da posted Mon, Aug 4 2003, 12:34pm  apparently, there is a giant species of salamander(ish-critter) in the ozarks.. i dont recall the name though! It's big, black, and ugly.. ick! However, it's not a cryptid.. they know it exists Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: StreetShaman posted Mon, Aug 4 2003, 7:19pm  I have heard of a species of salamander that hits somewhere in the 3-5 foot range called a hellbender, but I think that they're in south america. anyone know more about 'em? Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: StreetShaman posted Mon, Aug 4 2003, 7:26pm  did some lookin'. Hellbenders (Cryptobranchus alleganiensis) are from the Ozark region and are in the 2-4 ft range. 29 inches seems to be the average with rare larger specimens closer to 4ft. Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: Orca no da posted Wed, Aug 6 2003, 1:45am  eew, yeah that's them *laughs* not much looks as slimey in murky waters! Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: Delta posted Fri, Aug 22 2003, 8:09am  actually hellbenders and some other larger species of salamanders can ve found in Japan. The species of salamander can infilict a rather nasty bite. I saw one on my trip to Japan. I would say the salamander was about 2 to 3 feet in length. Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: wanderer posted Fri, Aug 22 2003, 6:26pm  There is a type of salamander that can grow to several feet in length in North America known as the amphiuma. They are pretty much black and are reputed to give very nasty bites. Technically, I think hellbenders are much smaller. Hellbenders undergo a complete metamorphosis, I think, but Amphiuma doesn't. Very strange looking animal. Saw one in an aquarium once. Sort of looks like a pudgy lungfish. For what may be the most accurate version of the story on the Loveland Frog do a search for: wecker cincinnati post loveland frog I can't remember the URL but this will find it for you. David Wecker is a writer for THE CINCINNATI POST and he interviewed the police officers involved in about 1999. So it was some 27 years after the fact. Subject: Re: Giant Frogs From: Auroch17 posted Mon, Jan 5 2004, 2:29pm  All of you are thinking of something diffrent, there is an Ozark Hellbender native in the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas. There is also an Eastern Hellbender native to the streams of the Appalachian Mountains, I believe the go pretty far north but not into Canada. Then there is the giant Japanese salamander they are related but they are not in the same genus except the two hellbenders are. Then there is the amphiuma wich is eel like, very black and has tiny front legs. The Hellbenders and the Japanese salamander inhabit cold water streams where as the amphiuma prefers swampy water on the coastal plain.

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