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| Subject: | | What happened to the foot |
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pathera_pardus
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Thu, Nov 6 2003, 9:42pm
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Hello all I'm just courious what happened to the "Yeti" foot they found, has there been any news? |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Dan84
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Thu, Nov 6 2003, 10:42pm
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Tests have shown that the foot is at least 7000 years old but as to what the foot belonged to is inconclusive.
For the full report check out http://www.bfro.net/news/altayleg.asp
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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enigma
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Thu, Nov 6 2003, 11:14pm
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its funny whenever a find like that is made you never end up hearing anymore about it. |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Cisco
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 12:21am
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Popular opinion is that its a bear leg. Russian scientists seem to be very willing to say something like "wow, looks like a yeti leg" and not worry about their reputations, whereas in the United States, most scientists would have just declared "its a bear leg" despite any doubts they have and file it away never to be investigated for fear of damaging their reputation. |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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J.P. Bates
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 7:13am
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Wish we could say that's the first incidence of things being "explained and forgotten."
--J.P. |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Kainan
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Mon, Nov 10 2003, 12:33am
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I have noticed in the past several years that stories from Russia, particularly from Pravda, but from other sources as well, need to be considered with an extra dose of scepticism. At first glance of the photo I imediately thought "bear". Not being an expert on skeletal anatomy, I found a site that sells cast replicas of primate limbs and such, and after looking at those, I'm sure that the foot does not belong to any primate. The claws are also not something you would find on any ape or hominid. I am interested to know, however, if the reported age of the foot is accurate, and if so, whether the foot belongs to a species that is now extinct. K |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Viashino
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 12:22am
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*reads topic*
Shredder disbanded them.
OK, jokes aside, I'm pretty sure we won't hear of it again, because someone will find it was just from a bear after all, and who wants to be seen with egg on their face?
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Prof00
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 10:42am
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Shredder didn't disband the Foot, they were taken down by the Ninja Turtles and a now older and fatter and lazier Shredder has simply lost the motivation to get them back together. Also he had a major foot fungus problem, and somehow restarting a gang called The Foot lost all appeal.
Okay, seriously, though, I think that there will be nothing new about that foot coming out.
Prof00...hero in a half-shell |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Orca no da
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Sun, Nov 9 2003, 9:32pm
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Reverend_Strone
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Mon, Nov 10 2003, 5:46pm
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Gotta love that obscure humour. Remarkably, this time I actually know what yousa guys are talking about. ;) |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Megaraptor
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 11:19am
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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enigma
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 5:55pm
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bears sure do have knee joins showing it was a bipedal organism. or were they wrong about that |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Viashino
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 6:23pm
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We've not seen any pics of this so-called bipedal knee.
What we have seen is an x-ray of the foot.
With a phalangeal count of three in the hallux.
Just like bears. But unlike any primate.
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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herm
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Fri, Nov 7 2003, 10:34pm
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IT IS A FRICKIN' BOOT! MADE OUT OF A BEAR LEG! THE EXTRA PHALANGE IS THE BEAR'S!
herm tearing at his hair and gnashing teeth |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Viashino
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Sat, Nov 8 2003, 1:30am
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The problem there, is that the toe in question is *attached* to the foot. Which means we have a four-toed human, with a surgically grafted bear hallux, wearing a bear-foot shoe.
Or a bear paw.
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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herm
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Sat, Nov 8 2003, 10:13am
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we do not know that the extra bone is attatched to the foot. I bet it is attatched to the claw, but I betcha it does not connect to the human bones inside. Did you see the video or the x-rays? I know what human foot bones look like, and bear's too. The xtra bone in question is an anchor for the claw. Remember the Russians NEVER claimed yeti- they always said it was "human." The yeti angle was attatched by the BBC. I am more than a little sure of this. Feet last a long time in boots, this isn't the first time climbers have found one, but it may be the oldest example.
herm knows his bears/archaic technology/climbers/ and Russians! |
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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Viashino
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Sat, Nov 8 2003, 7:33pm
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"we do not know that the extra bone is attatched to the foot. I bet it is attatched to the claw, but I betcha it does not connect to the human bones inside. Did you see the video or the x-rays?"
Yes. Here's a link. I copied the image off a news report on the foot (which I can dig out the URL to as well, if needed.)
http://home.iprimus.com.au/finback/pics/xray.jpg
If you're telling me this foot is from a primate, I'd love to know where you did anatomy.
"Remember the Russians NEVER claimed yeti- they always said it was "human.""
Them too.
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| Subject: | | Re: What happened to the foot |
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herm
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Sat, Nov 8 2003, 8:25pm
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OK, V; U R 1 Scary Aussie, but I am an experiential kinda guy, and in front of me here I am looking a folder, X rays of the "yeti"; x-rays of a human foot; and a fossil cave bear foot. How can I combine these Images to post on the Gallery? I will post on my own meglomaniac website. Looks pretty cut and dried to me....
herm....Draw, V! |
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| Subject: | | String wrapped around the toes |
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herm
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Sun, Nov 9 2003, 7:20pm
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the climbers that found this thing wore crampons, you betcha. For those of you unfamiliar, that's the spikey thingies on a climber's boot. Great for traction on steep ice. Unusually worn claws with something that looks like yarn clove-hitched around each toe. Suspicious extra toe joint. I'm thinkin' this guy probably froze his toes by tying bear claws to them, but it probably worked. You wouldn't believe how uncomfortable modern climbing boots are, either. So, yes, the claws are attatched. With string. For ice climbing. This thing was found in a location highly unlikely for any large mammel, remember. |
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| Subject: | | Re: String wrapped around the toes |
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Viashino
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Sun, Nov 9 2003, 7:47pm
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But crampons work by having spikes all over the sole of the shoe, not at the tip, as is seen in this instance
As fr unlikely locations, large mammals are found everywhere.. how was this an unlikely location?
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| Subject: | | Re: String wrapped around the toes |
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herm
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Sun, Nov 9 2003, 9:24pm
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That is partly true; actually, the invention of front point crampons revolutionized modern ice climbing. I am guessing bear claws work better than regular moccosins. This is an unlikely location precisely because crampons are needed to get there. Bears rarely climb over the mountain, reguardless of what the song says. It isn't impossible, but highly unlikely. No high mountain region supports large animals of any kind. Even Yaks and Grizzly bears inhabit valleys and plateus. Only climbers climb mountains. And I never saw a bear with perfect clove hitches tied around his toes. |
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| Subject: | | Re: String wrapped around the toes |
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Viashino
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Fri, Nov 14 2003, 6:05am
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"No high mountain region supports large animals of any kind. Even Yaks and Grizzly bears inhabit valleys and plateus"
Perhaps, if this is a bear, that's why it was dead? ;)
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| Subject: | | Re: String wrapped around the toes |
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herm
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Fri, Nov 14 2003, 8:39am
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I suspect that the environment killed it even if it wasn't a bear [forgeting for the moment that most 7,000 yr. old mammals are dead anyway] Actually, bears have been known to climb very steep technical ground when after food. I doubt that they are so inclined, however, without that motivation. Peace out, V ~h |
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