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Subject: Re: The Value of Scientific Consensus From: hroth posted Thu, Nov 5 2009, 6:18pm  I highly recommend Crichton's book 'State of fear,' about climate change. It's massively researched. I dunno what to think about consensus myself. Crichton raises eugenics as an issue that found lots of consensus. Newtonian physics worked great until it crashed about a century ago. I don't think many people expected it to fall - many people here don't agree that it has fallen. I agree that reproducible results aren't the only way to do science. I think that falsifiable hypotheses are what it's all about. Subject: Re: The Value of Scientific Consensus From: luna1580 posted Fri, Nov 6 2009, 2:16am  crichton may have done a lot of research, but he seems to have done a very poor job of absorbing the parts of it that conflicted with the opinion on climate change he had going into that research process. just for a start: RealClimate: Michael Crichton's State of Confusion RealClimate: Michael Crichton's State of Confusion II: Return of the Science Review of Michael Crichton's State of Fear : Weather Underground Answers to Key Questions Raised by M. Crichton in State of Fear | Pew Center on Global Climate Change: The Pew Center on Global Climate Change Subject: Re: The Value of Scientific Consensus From: hroth posted Fri, Nov 6 2009, 11:18am  I think he made a pretty good case for land use playing a significant role in the perceived increase in temps worldwide... And it's obviously heavy-handed about Hollywood types, no doubt. But it is a novel, after all.

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