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Subject: Re: Ingots or Lingots? From: Ella posted Wed, Nov 4 2009, 1:05pm  The only thing I found on Google under "lingots" was white kidney beans! Can you describe what these "animals" are supposed to look like???? Subject: Re: Ingots or Lingots? From: Doomster28 posted Wed, Nov 4 2009, 1:41pm  Ok Ella, I found the link where I read this whole entire account. Pretty weird stuff. Needless to say, I was intrigued. I'm 28 years old now and have loved anything CZ-related for years. Before I even knew there was a name for this study. I always just called it "Loch Ness Monster/Bigfoot-Type Stuff" when I was a kid. Anywho, here's that link. Judge for yourself... The Creature of the Dump Subject: Re: Ingots or Lingots? Creature of the Dump From: Goldstein posted Fri, Nov 6 2009, 1:18pm  I remember this one when it first appeared on the net (in fact, i might have been the one who first brought it to cryptozoology.com). There was also a big discussion thread about it on the Fortean Times forum (which i can no longer access since they changed their login software) if i remember rightly. My suggestion at the time was that it could have been some form of Caecilian, as there are species of Caecilian which have very bright and striking blue eyes (in an otherwise featureless-looking head with nothing to distinguish it from their worm-like body). However, i now think this is unlikely because those particular species live exclusively in water, and, while there are burrowing caecilians, they have no externally visible eyes. (Burrowing creatures in general tend to either lack eyes or have very small, difficult to notice eyes, so something having big, very noticeable eyes is odd in a burrowing creature of any phylum.) The only other thing that i am able to think of is some sort of caterpillar or other insect larva, some of which have "false eyes" (actually markings on the skin rather than sense organs of any sort) which can be made to "appear" or "disappear" by retracting the covering folds of skin. But at 2" thick with no visible limbs and only a small portion of the body outside the hole, it would have to be far larger than any known insect larva. I know there were quite a few cryptid (and fortean/paranormal incident) reports from both French and American soldiers in the Indochina/Vietnam wars (including an Orang Pendek-like bipedal ape if i remember rightly). The Centre for Fortean Zoology seem to specialise in these sort of odd, obscure reports of stuff on the boundary betweeen cryptozoology and fortean/unexplained phenomena, so might be worth contacting in case there is anything relevant in their archives. I think this one remains unresolved though... Subject: Re: Ingots or Lingots? Creature of the Dump From: Ella posted Fri, Nov 6 2009, 1:56pm  Wow, Gold, you sure know a lot about legless invertebrates! I am genuinely impressed, as they don't do a thing for me, and I wouldn't have the patience to study them. Good for you! :) Subject: Re: Ingots or Lingots? Creature of the Dump From: Doomster28 posted Fri, Nov 6 2009, 3:27pm  Goldstein, thank you very much! Holy-informative Batman! That's awesome! I'm glad somebody know what I'm talking about! I love all CZ stuff (with any legitimate sea monster report/sighting and mokele-mbembe being my favorites), but this was one thing that really stuck out to me as really odd. Like I said, I kinda passed it off as just another random nonsensical sighting, but after finding next to nothing on the internet about it... It had me interested even more. Also, Ella I agree with you, this report seemed extremely genuine... which was another thing that stuck out to me. Some of these accounts I almost think to myself, "some people couldn't make this stuff up!" Subject: Re: Ingots or Lingots? Weird! From: Ella posted Fri, Nov 6 2009, 2:15pm  Wow, I don't know what to think except that Paula's account sounds perfectly genuine. In the followup to the article, there is an indication that there were such creatures in Indochina long ago. Doesn't sound like any animal of any kind that I ever heard about, that's for sure. I hope that more are seen and can be photographed! Mucho thankoes for the link. I had seen the story before, but it was years ago and I had forgotten any details, just something about a dump. This would make a big scientific discovery if proved to be real.

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