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Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: CascadeCamaro posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 12:33pm  Totally cool. Now for the wet blankie. . . A medium-sized bird which inhabits dense s. bottomland forest "reappearing" after 61 years is a Hell of a lot more plausible than an 8 ft tall apeman living undetected in the same habitat. Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: Megaraptor posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 12:51pm  From the CNN Article: "The ivory-billed woodpecker is one of six North American bird species suspected or known to have gone extinct since 1880," wrote the researchers, led by John Fitzpatrick of the Cornell University Laboratory of Ornithology in New York. "The others are Labrador duck (Camptorhynchus labradorius), Eskimo curlew (Numenius borealis), Carolina parakeet (Conuropsis carolinensis), passenger pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius), and Bachman's warbler (Vermivora bachmanii)." Funny how the Eskimo Curlew was rediscovered a while ago and Bachman's Warbler may very well still be alive. Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: Paleo student posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 9:43pm  um...Eskimo Curlew hasn't yet been rediscovered...occasional reports on the Texas coast during migration, but there is suspicion how legitimate these are. I have heard 0 recent reports of Bachmans warbler That said, both breed in remote habitat, so I think there might still be hope for them Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: Belseth posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 12:54pm  Actually as woodpeckers go it's huge, the largest in North America. I agree it doesn't make a case for Bigfoot but it does reenforce hopes on the Tasmanian Tiger. I've heard some promising stories second hand from Australian friends and I still hold out hope there'll be confirmation they are alive sometime soon. The biggest thing it does is helps legitimize cryptozoology since they were the only ones that believed it might be alive. Sadly the mainstream won't see it that way. The one problem I still have with Bigfoot is the lack of a fossil record. There hasn't been so much as a ten thousand year old tooth found. Also there's zero evidence in Russia if the theory is they came across the Bering Straits. Everyone wonders if it'll take a dead body to prove it's existence. I'd say a ten thousand year old skull would make a compelling case but none has turned up. I'll take a ten thousand year old fossil over a black blob photo as evidence any day of the week. Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: ScarletNyx posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 1:13pm  Well Belseth, a fossil record would be nice, but if Bigfoot is intelligent wouldn't it be secound nature for the alive to bury the dead somewhere away from bears and wolves and the like just like our own fossils did thousands of years ago? My own theory about Bigfoot is that they bury their dead in their caves ( Yes, I think they live in caves or small valleys since most of them are reported near these areas)or might even strip the meat, throw it out of the cave for sanitation purposes and bundle the bones up. Just my thought though! Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: Paleo student posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 9:45pm  except the fossil record is full of human remains, and caves are great places to find pleistocene fossils...excellant preservation in them thar caverns Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: ocean_angel posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 5:28pm  It's wonderful to see such a beautiful bird thriving. There have infact been suspected 'Bigfoot' teeth found. In 1935 Ralph von Koenigswald, a Dutch paleontologist, entered an apothecary's shop while on a visit to Hong Kong. While he was waiting to be served, he browsed through the stores collection of fossil bones and teeth. In a jar on the counter he found a lower third molar of enormous size, apparently belonging to a primate of some kind but twice the size of the largest ape tooth ever found. The shopkeeper had no idea where the tooth had come from or how long it had been among the family wares. Von Koenigswald spent much of the next 20 years searching for similar specimens. By 1954 he had 19 of the enormous teeth, and Chinese paleontologists had unearthed another 47. They where virtually identical to human teeth, but six times larger. Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: Paleo student posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 9:47pm  Nope...your talking about Gigantopithecus, and there is no reason to believe bigfoot=Gigantopithecus. At any rate, still no Giganto teeth in the us fossil record Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: the_elusive_esquilax posted Thu, Apr 28 2005, 6:00pm  maybe they get mistaken for abnormally large human bones? Subject: Re: Ivory Billed Woodpecker confirmed--YES!!! From: U.T. Raptor posted Fri, Apr 29 2005, 4:42pm  There were a number of tales of giant skeletons being found in the last couple of centuries, but far as I know none have been authenticated...

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