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Subject: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: Cherokee posted Mon, Nov 2 2009, 11:34am 
I love stuff like this.


Diver finds time capsule
Subject: Re: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: Guodzilla posted Mon, Nov 2 2009, 7:23pm 
(Gasp)
OH, SWEET JESUS, HE MAY HAVE FOUND THE GRIFFON.
That was the very, very first shipwreck ever recorded in the Great Lakes! I used to be a major shipwreck buff and I would read every book I could get my hands on about famous wrecks, from the Titanic to the Edmund Fitzgerald. Frederick Stonehouse is a Great Lakes scholar of some note, and IIRC one of his books had a chapter on the loss of the Griffon.
Subject: Re: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: Cherokee posted Mon, Nov 2 2009, 8:09pm 
I have an online friend who is also a huge shipwreck buff. He was excited about this find as well.
Subject: Re: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: MJLehde posted Mon, Nov 2 2009, 10:19pm 
"Oh Holy sweet Jesus!!!" My thoughts exactly. When I read the title of this post I started going through in my mind the lists of ships gone missing in Michigan that I think and hope will be found someday and I thought of the Chicora, the Andaste and Alpena but THE GRIFFON!!! dang The Griffon is in a class all by itself. As a diver, history buff, someone fascinated by the time capsules that shipwrecks represent and person who spent alot of his youth around the Great Lakes this is the biggest news I've heard in a long time. Thank you for posting this because if I'd have missed all this till well after the cheering had ended I'd have never forgiven myself.
Subject: Re: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: Cherokee posted Tue, Nov 3 2009, 9:48am 
Hehe, your welcome.
Subject: Re: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: Ursustyrannis posted Wed, Nov 4 2009, 7:00pm 
As a michigander, this is some good news indeed!
Subject: Re: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: Guodzilla posted Thu, Nov 5 2009, 8:00pm 
I'll have to go back and reread some of my Fred Stonehouse stuff . . . There are a few wrecks still missing from the storm of 1913 which I'd like to see found. I have a pre-sinking postcard from the "Charles S. Price," aka the capsized "Mystery Ship" of Lake Huron. There's a whole mystique built up about that ship, and a possible connection with another steamer, the "Regina," which also sank during that storm.
Subject: Re: The 'Holy Grail' of shipwrecks found in Lake Michigan
From: MJLehde posted Fri, Nov 6 2009, 10:33am 
That's because when the Price was found floating there was some who thought that there was another boat beneath her and the Regina was the most often named suspect. Others thought that there had been a collision between the two boats because there were reports that some of the bodies of the Price crewmen had drifted ashore wearing Regina life preservers. That's the sort of mystery that helps to connect the two boats in the public mind.

When the Price finally sank after the air trapped in her hull bled out there proved to be no other boats trapped below her and years later the wreck of the Regina was found near Salinac with her anchor run out. Even allowing for some drift by the Price after she capsized it isn't likely that the two met during the storm and it seems that the confusion with the life preservers was the result of honest mistakes on the part of the overwhelmed mortuary staffs that had to contend with hundreds of unexpected corpses washing up on the beaches.

The 1913 storm, or the Big Storm or Strom King as it was also known, was one of the most powerful blows to ever strike the Great Lakes and your right that several of the boats that went missing in that storm have never been found. I don't think that any of the missing are in Lake Michigan. Several boats were lost in Superior but Lake Huron was the real killing ground and hundreds died when some of the biggest and proudest lake boats went to the bottom, for the most part with all hands being lost.

Here is a painting you might like of the McGean, she was lost in Huron with no survivors and her wreck was located several years ago in deep water. Glad to meet another with an interest in the lakes and their history. For my part it's in my blood and whenever I'm not looking out on Superior, which for years now has been way too @#$% often I find that I'm wishing I was and yes, that includes the winter months.



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