Cryptozoology forums > Cryptids > Mysterious Big Cats > view thread

Subject: The Onza's Tail From: Panthera posted Thu, Dec 4 2003, 12:25pm  Looking at pictures of the onza (the famous one and others) I see that, if it's a cougar, the tail is out of proportion and short. It reminds me of the giant cougar in the gallery, which also has a short tail. Has anyone else noticed this? Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Jerry D. Coleman posted Thu, Dec 4 2003, 2:41pm  Hey Panthera, off the present subject but I was wondering if I could make a slide of your Ozark Howler for a talk I'll be doing near St.Louis in late February? If I could please send me the name you wish credit be given. Thanks, Jerry Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Bill Rivers posted Thu, Dec 4 2003, 6:19pm  Hi Panthera Which Onza pictures are you looking at, could you offer some links to them? Thanks Bill Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Panthera posted Fri, Dec 5 2003, 12:10pm  Normal Cougar Giant Cougar Onza I don't know if it's the original, but I actually found what might be the only color picture of an onza! Note that the big cat's tail and the onza's tail are proportianately shorter than the normal one's. Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Bill Rivers posted Fri, Dec 5 2003, 12:24pm  You can't see the end of the Onza's Tail in the photograph, therefore how can you measure its length? A few more points: The Onza is severely malnourished. The Normal Cougar is a fat captive cat. The Giant Cougar has had a considerable amount of doubt cast upon it. Cheers ;) Bill Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Panthera posted Fri, Dec 5 2003, 4:12pm  You mean the big cat is a hoax? Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Bill Rivers posted Fri, Dec 5 2003, 7:47pm  *You mean the big cat is a hoax?* Many questions were raised about the 'One Big Cat' scenario! But those who were involved weren't very forthcoming with answers, that's all I can say :) But anyway, where's the photo that shows all of the Onza's tail? Cheers Bill Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Flyingshrapnel posted Mon, Feb 7 2005, 6:40am  The same picture here has more to show the whole tail: http://www.lioncrusher.com/animal.asp?animal=121 Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Onza posted Fri, Dec 5 2003, 3:57pm  Yes, I noticed this! It was one of the things I pointed out when I did an onza research report in middle school. Normal mountain lions have a longer tail like a leopard, but the onza has a shorter tail like a jaguar. You know some people believed that the onza was a jaguar-mountain lion hybrid, maybe this was the reason. I still don't think it's anything more than a mutant, though. Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Bill Rivers posted Sun, Dec 7 2003, 5:51am  As I said before, I can't see the end of the tail in the picture! If we are only seeing 3/4 of the tail in the 'linked Onza photo' (which is not unreasonable) then the tail would be a perfectly reasonable length for that of a puma i.e. 50% of the nose to tail base length. If anyone has a photo of the entire Onza, then I'd love to see it, as I don't think I've ever seen the missing tail end. Cheers Bill Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Panthera posted Sun, Dec 7 2003, 1:57pm  Sorry about that. The full picture is in the glossary. Only the very tip of the tail is cut off, so it still looks out of proportion. Also, I thought that analysis showed no malnourishment. Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Bill Rivers posted Sun, Dec 7 2003, 3:27pm  Thanks for that Panthera, but the photo in the Glossary reveals another 25% of the tail, which brings the full length to at least 50% of the nose to tail base length (a third of entirety) . This is a perfectly acceptible 'body to tail proportion' for a Cougar! Cheers Bill Subject: Re: The Onza's Tail From: Panthera posted Sun, Dec 7 2003, 4:53pm  Really?? I must be off on my mentally measuring ability. (:-( At least I was able to find a color photo!

Close Window