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Subject: Eltanin Antenna (Sponge or Not?) From: K. Kitsune Fox posted Wed, Aug 25 2004, 1:11pm  I found an artical on this subject at Fortean Times' Website, and decided to break it down to just the most important facts and see what I could work out for my own desicion as an Armchair Crytozoologist. Here are my facts and my "findings" (they're inconclusive right now) -+- Facts: (From http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/183_eltanin1.shtml) #1: USNS Eltanin (the ship) really existed. #2: The scientists on the ship were interviewed, and found to have not tampered with the picture. #3: Confers with a point found by Bruce Cathie, who did the research concerning numerology and UFOlogy. #4: In 2003 one of the Eltanin scientists, AF Amos, was revisited. He referred the e-list researcher, Tom DeMary, to the book Face of the Deep by Bruce Heezen and Charles Hollister. The book said the following: “While the bath sponges are limited to the warmest shallow waters of the continental shelf, a few of their bizarre relatives are rather commonly found in the deep sea. Cladorhiza, a particularly dramatic one which somewhat resembles a space-age microwave antenna, was not uncommon in the early dredge hauls of Challenger and Blake…” and “they are sponges with a long stem ending in ramifying roots, sunk deeply into the mud. The stem has nodes with four to six club-like appendages. They evidently cover like bushes extensive tracts of the bottom.” Conclusion: Until such time as I manage to find a photograph of the Cladorhiza sponge, I refuse to cast judgment on the topic. I also will not further investigate the Bruce Cathie angle (which I find to be much less viable an option). Should the Cladorhiza sponge be found to be a non-viable answer, then the Bruce Cathie correspondences will have to be researched further. -+- So, if anyone has a picture of the sponge that I could compair to the Eltanin Antenna photo (which I'll submitt to the Gallery), I'd greatly appreciate it. -Kit Subject: Re: Eltanin Antenna (Sponge or Not?) From: Kraken posted Wed, Aug 25 2004, 6:29pm  Here is a link which may be of interest to you: Antenna or Sponge? Subject: Re: Eltanin Antenna (Sponge or Not?) From: K. Kitsune Fox posted Wed, Aug 25 2004, 7:30pm  Excellent. Thanks for the link. Seeing the original artical is good for my research... A link from that site that you gave even had a link to a picture... http://scisun.nybg.org:8890/searchdb/owa/wwwcatalogrenz.detail_list? this_id=4367092 NowI've got to put some time into getting a scale indicatore for the Antenna picture... because those spounges are pretty small... I'll have to put some research into the maxiumu size and the like... Subject: Re: Eltanin Antenna (Sponge or Not?) From: Heist posted Fri, Aug 27 2004, 10:14pm  The magazine published a two-parter that pretty much cleared it up in my mind. Subject: Re: Eltanin Antenna (Sponge or Not?) From: K. Kitsune Fox posted Sat, Aug 28 2004, 7:18am  Untill I get some sort of indication of the Antenna's scale, I refuse to bow to a magazine artical. Which magazine was it? Subject: Re: Eltanin Antenna (Sponge or Not?) From: Cricket posted Thu, Sep 2 2004, 8:00am  I think the article said it was two feet tall. Subject: Re: Eltanin Antenna (Sponge or Not?) From: Larry Hatch posted Mon, Jun 20 2005, 2:04am  Hello all: If you want to see the original article, I recommend this page: http://www.larryhatch.net/ELTANIN.html The Eltanin Antenna was exposed as Cladorhiza Concrescens for the first time on that page of mine. Numerous copycats have since copied it in whole or in part. I recommend the original above for full text and images. If someone can make sure the link is clickable, I would much appreciate it. Thanks - Larry HatchOriginal Eltanin Antenna article.

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